New GMC Canyon, Ford Bronco Heritage Editions and Nissan Z | Autoblog Podcast #743

In this episode of the Autoblog Podcast, Editor-in-Chief Greg Migliore is joined by Senior Producer Christopher McGraw. They kick off the podcast with news. Ford launched retro-themed Heritage Editions for its 2023 Bronco and Bronco Sport lineup. GMC unveiled the 2023 Canyon, complete with a ZR2-based AT4X trim. Some rare, vintage American cars were stolen and destroyed in England.

Chris loves sleeping in cars, and tells us how to turn a car into a camper for less than $100. Next, our hosts talk about what they've been driving from the Autoblog test fleet, including the new Nissan Z (which Chris slept in), Mercedes EQS 450 and VW Atlas. Finally, they reference a recent Autoblog Reddit AMA for a unique "Spend My Money" format. They help one participant pick a sub-$40,000 sports car, and another choose a JDM sports car to import to the U.S. when they move back from Japan.

Send us your questions for the Mailbag and Spend My Money at: Podcast@Autoblog.com.

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GREG MIGLIORE: Welcome back to "The Autoblog Podcast." I'm Greg Migliore. We've got a great show for you today. We're going to talk about a number of topics, Bronco Heritage Edition, 2023 GMC Canyon. Thieves made off with some vintage cars in the UK and then took them to a demolition derby. You won't believe what happened next. Actually, you probably will. You've probably seen the story. It's-- yeah, I just felt like talking about it because the cars are interesting.

Then senior producer Chris McGraw is joining me today for this show. And we're going to talk about how you can turn your camper-- or turn your car into a camper for less than 100 bucks. He's been driving the Z car and EQS 450, which I drove last fall. And I've spent some time this week in the Volkswagen Atlas, which I took golfing. We will spend your money. With that, I will bring in Chris McGraw. What's going on, man?

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Not too much. Just living it up in the hot summer here in Colorado.

GREG MIGLIORE: All right, it is with 54 degrees this morning. It feels like August is turning into, like, September. It's-- summer in Michigan has been, I think, too good, if you will. Like this just, to me, means September is going to be, like, 85 every day.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Man, I love that transition from summer into fall in Michigan. It's so great. Here it's like-- it was 97 when I went to the gym after work yesterday. So I could deal with some 54 degree temperatures right now for sure.

GREG MIGLIORE: Very good. Very good. Yeah, I don't know, it's like we're a month ahead of schedule. But we'll see. But yeah, big show here for you. So Bronco Heritage Edition, I think these are cool because I mean, for me, this is like the obvious. Like, the Bronco is a Heritage play. You might as well steer into it and give the people what they want, which is a little more of a-- like a super retro vibe.

So Dodge has had some success with the Challenger, I think. It's almost to the point of the Challenger being syrupy retro at different points. But with the Bronco, I think it's tastefully done. Do you have a favorite of these?

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Oh man, so my favorite-- I mean, I just love that they brought back the white roof, obviously. I mean, you can't do a Heritage Bronco without bringing back the white roof.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: I would say-- there is the limited edition Yellowstone metallic. So it's the yellow color. That one is probably my favorite, which I kind of found myself surprised at. Because I'm not usually like a huge yellow car guy. Guy Fieri, don't at me. Because I think he's got like a yellow car collection. Yeah, so I'm not usually a huge yellow car kind of guy. But there's something about that Yellowstone metallic that just really stood out to me, especially with the white roof.

I would-- like to have seen white Ford letters instead of red on everything, especially with the yellow-- the Yellowstone metallic. It's like trending towards McDonald's-y with the red and yellow. But I totally get why they did it. Yeah, I think that's my favorite.

The Broncos Sports, they don't do it for me as much as the regular Bronco. But I mean, I guess that could be said in multiple ways with the Bronco Sport versus the regular Bronco. Yeah, what are-- what are your thoughts? What's your favorite?

GREG MIGLIORE: So agreed. I think it's kind of-- this is, to me, almost like marketing at its finest. Like the Bronco Sport didn't exist in the '60s and '70s. So hey, let's make up a history for it and dress it up like they did. It's sort of like when, I don't know, different-- you know, it's almost football season. You'll see them wearing like retro jerseys. And then it's like, but they didn't actually wear that in, like, the '50s. It's just like an amalgamation or a compilation of, like, you know, different decades put together to sell jerseys, which is fine too. Nobody loves a special edition jersey more than I do, frankly.

And that's kind of what this is. I like the robin's egg blue Bronco Sport as far as the Sports go. I think that's a nice look. I love those wheels. Yeah, if I was going to go with a Bronco Sport, I think that's very tasteful. And I like the red one too, the race red one that's kind of a--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah.

GREG MIGLIORE: I think that's pretty-- that's very '70s, if you will. And I think they do it a little better than the yellow one, the Yellowstone one. Again, those wheels are just amazing. I think that's--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: The wheels on the race red are way better, I think, than the wheels on the Yellowstone metallic, yeah.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, so I think that's a good one. It actually reminds me of-- Jim Farley did a special edition for the-- which one was it? It was for a soup kitchen, actually, here in Detroit. And that one had really awesome white wheels. And I thought, why don't they do more of that, you know? It was kind of a one-off they used. They raised like over a million dollars for a soup kitchen here, which is just stupendous--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Oh, wow.

GREG MIGLIORE: --which is great, yeah. But again, I like those wheels. And they also had a special edition. I think it was a Park Service one. So--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yes.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, that was a great one too, very small, again, very limited though.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah, I don't even know if they ended up selling that one or if it was just like-- I think it was like a Filson collab.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yes.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: And actually, my neighbors got the Park Service Bronco from just outside Yosemite. It might be from Yosemite actually. He's got two. He's got a '89 and a '90, I think, sitting in his driveway right now. I don't know if either of them run. But one of them is the Park Service one. And he's like really hoping to get that one up and running for his-- he's got two boys that he wants to give these two Broncos to. And I think that would be such an awesome first car to have.

GREG MIGLIORE: If he doesn't do that, I will put a bad idea into your head. See if you can take it off his hands maybe for like, you know-- I don't know. At the end of the day, it's still like a 30-year-old Bronco, I mean, not quite collectible. If it's not running, he maybe-- it might be a situation where he's like, I want to get this out of my driveway. That would be a fun sort of daily driver, but like fun daily driver. Not that you're going to take it everywhere super critical, but just like, I need to get to the store. I'll probably get there. I think I'll take the Park Service Bronco.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Right, yeah, definitely not a long road trip vehicle for me. Because that's a-- it's more of an if we'll get there then a when, I think, right-- right now at least, yeah.

GREG MIGLIORE: All right, so we'll shift gears over to the 2023 GMC Canyon, revealed August 11. A bit of a hot take out this one from me is for the first time, I think the Canyon looks better than the Chevy Colorado. I've always been more of a Colorado person. I think Colorado had attitude. Chevy did a great job with some of those, like the ZR2 versions.

But I don't know, the Silverado-- actually, slip there. But that's what I'm trying to say is the Colorado, I think, looks a little too much like kind of like a smaller, sanitized Silverado. Still looks good. We'll have to see them in person. But I don't know, I looked at the Canyon, and I thought, wow, this is what they should have done all along. Last time I drove a Canyon, I thought, this is just so like, you know, vanilla wafer that it didn't feel like the rest of the GMC lineup, which is kind of blingy, you know? So yeah, I'm liking the looks.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah, I would agree with you there. I really like the new Canyon. Obviously we haven't gotten in it or anything. I've been really impressed with-- I mean, this has an AT4X model. I was just in the Sierra 1500 AT4X like a month and a half to two months ago. And I mean, what we've been saying about GM trucks for a long time, up until recently, is like the interiors-- especially with the Chevrolet, the Chevrolet trucks-- are the interiors just aren't up to snuff with the rest of the market.

And I got in that AT4X, the Sierra, and it was incredibly impressive. Keep in mind, this is like a $70,000, $80,000 pickup truck, so it better be. But it makes me incredibly excited for the AT4X Canyon. The AT4, to me, is-- you know, it's fine. It's like something that looks more off-roady, I think, than it is. But the ZT4X is where I would lay down my money on the Canyon if I was going to buy one. I think it looks great, looks really rugged. And I'm very impressed with the interiors of these just by the photos that they've given us.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, agreed. I actually drove the AT4 Sierra around that same time, actually, maybe a little bit-- maybe like more like the start of summer, end of spring. Like you, I was impressed in that sort of same manner. What I like about what they're doing with the Canyon right now is they are differentiating it a little bit more from the Colorado.

Like the interior is a bit nicer, you know? And it's a little bit different. There's a little bit more of a-- you know, all sorts of different-- the layout is different, you know? I think stuff like that is important. And it's pretty nicely equipped. It starts at 40 grand, which seems like a lot for a midsize truck. But then when you look at the context of inflation and prices for like your average just vehicle, to me actually, a midsize truck for 40 grand seems like actually a pretty good deal.

So yeah, I mean engine lineup is like all of the high-output versions. Yeah, I mean, I think we'll-- because this is sort of like a new generation of it, we already-- they're not saving the different trim levels like they did, say, eight years ago when it was like, hey, here's the Canyon and Colorado. Here's the different versions. You know, a new one would come out every couple of years or so. This is a lot of the stuff.

Like maybe it won't launch all at once. But like, they've told us what they're going to do with it for now. So yeah, the AT4X looks awesome. It looks super capable.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: It looks like it may come with a winch from the factory, which would make it only the second pickup truck on the market after the Power Wagon to do so. That being said, it does start at-- I can't believe some of these prices. It does start at 63 grand. So that's-- that is a yikes. But I mean, with the regular one starting at $40,000 it's not really-- it's not really a surprise.

GREG MIGLIORE: The Denali, speaking of expensive, I think that's-- this finally, to me, looks like a true Canyon Denali. When you look at those wheels and the grille, it feels like-- and that interior looks great. And I think you're finally seeing the Canyon kind of get some of that like actual real premium feel that like you definitely get in the Yukon or something like that. I always thought like it was almost like-- like the Acadia, which is kind of an easy one to kind of rag on. Never quite felt, you know, as GMC-y as it could.

And I'd put the Canyon in that same boat. But that's also tough because the Yukon is sort of like a diet Escalade. So you've got-- you know, it's-- it's a very, you know, different kind of family as far as the lineup. But this looks good to me.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah, same. Yeah, it's got to be tough to figure out, at least for the big SUVs, like how to make them as luxurious as possible without stepping on Cadillac's toes. But with this, they don't have to worry about that. So they kind of just went all out, it seems like. I'm really excited to get-- get in it.

The last time I was in a Canyon, we loaded up the dogs and-- and went up into the mountains. And it was it a step-up Colorado. Like you said, it wasn't anything impressive. And-- and this definitely looks way better than that.

GREG MIGLIORE: Sounds good. Sounds good. So kind of a crazy story that we saw this month about thieves in the UK-- hat tip to "The Drive." They did a really nice job of reporting this one out. A few other sites picked it up to. And of course, we covered it. This is wild.

So you've got like a '64 Pontiac Grand Prix and an '85 Ford LTD. This is the wagon, which honestly, that caught my eye. Because I really remember those like '80s like land yachts, if you will. My grandmother had a Fairmont, actually, which is similar body style.

And it's just like, I read it on my phone. It showed up in one of my feeds at like 10:30. Just kind of doing that final like doom scroll of the day, if you will. And I was just like, wow, you know? So again, we covered it.

You know, it doesn't look like 100% of the facts have surfaced. But long and short of it is two pretty rare cars, obviously, in the UK-- not so much around here, but still relatively rare. You know, you're talking about an almost 60-year-old Pontiac and a pretty rare wagon. Most of them around here are rusted out-- stolen-- yeah-- stolen. And then two cars that look very suspiciously like them showed up at a demolition derby, or as they call it, a banger race, in the UK.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Which I think is way better, way better, banger race.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, it actually is more descriptive when you look at how the car is like-- it's like an oval, but it's also like they are smashing into each other. Long story short, they just showed up. And it was like, hey, here's two-- two more entries. They-- apparently nobody noticed it right away. The cops were called, and they did come up and impound these things.

But it was too late, as you can see. It was clearly after the race, or after the cars had gotten the worst of it. I don't know, man, it's just-- for me, it was a little cringey. I was a little mad. I also think like it's-- these are the cars. I mean, what are the odds there's another '64 Pontiac or LTD wagon like that in the UK?

A couple sites had reported out-- it might have been "The Drive"-- that literally, there was only one of those LTDs registered in the whole UK. So you know, unless somebody showed up with some like, you know, salvage title with exactly the same wheels, if you look at the pictures, like what happened? So I don't know. Filled-- filled me with rage. But I also couldn't look away, just because of the cars. And I don't know.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah, it's one of those things where like, man, if I was involved, meaning if I was the person who got the car stolen from, it just like talk about heartbreak. And if it is indeed the only LTD in the entire country, like, yikes, that's just-- definitely leaves a bad taste in your mouth. They like spray-painted them this like teal color with black roofs. And yeah, it's-- I mean, they've got to be the same-- the same cars. I would be shocked if they weren't.

I'm also-- this is the first time that a car that came out within a couple of years of me being born has been referred to as a classic. So that made me feel all sorts of things as well. But yeah, it's just-- man, yeah, that just is heartbreaking to restore something assuming it was-- I mean, it looks pretty clean in the photo. Both of them look pretty clean in the photos. And then the before and after is just-- ugh, it's disastrous.

GREG MIGLIORE: It's a weird crime too. Because it's like, what is-- like you're the thief. Why are you going to the trouble of stealing the cars to take them to a demolition derby? And it's like, it's not like these two cars are like that valuable. We're like stripping them. You're going to be able to like flip a profit off of the different parts, you know?

Because to get them sort of race prepped, such as it is, all you're really doing is taking out like the glass and anything that would make them nice, which isn't like intrinsically valuable stuff, right? You've still got the motors in there. So it's just to me, it's a weird, kind of like malicious thing to do, you know?

And then I guess it was the last race for this like banger track. They were closing it to make way for like a new apartment complex or something. So you know, for what it's worth, it sounds like the organizers were pretty horrified is the quote I saw.

I also do question though, like you know, you're in England. If these two cars roll up-- and they're painted teal. Like it's not like they rolled up in like primer or something. Like, what? You know? This almost feels like a prank. Like-- you know, like an Ashton Kutcher thing, you know? Like I just--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: He's going to come out with this trucker hat on, and say that they've been punked, and like roll out the cars. They're totally fine.

GREG MIGLIORE: Dak Shepard's going to roll up in the other two cars. Like, like, what? I just-- you know, it's very hard to fathom. And I don't know, again, it does seem like somebody at the track should have been like, hey, not that you should be up on the list of stolen cars recently, but like--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Right.

GREG MIGLIORE: I mean, I don't know, if a vintage something rolled up at a demolition derby in the middle of nowhere in Michigan, like you wouldn't maybe at least notice?

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah--

GREG MIGLIORE: I don't know.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: --especially if it was the only one that you've ever seen in Michigan. Yeah, that would definitely-- alarm bells. Yeah, it seems like-- it's like, what did these two owners do that-- it almost seems like somebody's taking out revenge on these people, you know?

GREG MIGLIORE: Exactly, yeah.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Because it's such a weird, weird story.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah. It doesn't make sense to me too that like logically, the thieves are like, OK, we got to get rid of these cars. Like the heat's on. OK, let's do this. I mean-- because I mean, it's one of those things where the perfect crime is right under somebody's eyes, I guess, which is what they did. But I mean, hello, social media. And like--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: They attracted a lot of attention for sure, yeah, if they were just trying to dump cars that they stole. Painted them a real bright color and attracted media attention from across the pond. So yeah, I don't know.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, I want to see how this one turns out. Actually, I didn't think of this until right now, but I'm pretty sure my dad had a '64 Grand Prix,

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Oh, nice.

GREG MIGLIORE: Or maybe it was-- this is a '65, it looks like. He may have had a Le Mans actually, as I think about it. But that era of Pontiacs was pretty cool. I think our friend Jake Lingeman, who I think you know from-- he's at "Newsweek" now. He has a '61 or '62-- forgetting which Pontiac it is now. Not a Biscayne, but another one of those Pontiac land yachts. Anyways, all right, so that's just bizarre.

If you want to get away from it all, and you want to do it for 100 bucks, tell me how to outfit your car into a camper.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah, so this is-- this is something that my wife and I did a few times when we first moved out to Colorado. Like we-- we moved out here, and we wanted to-- we hadn't really explored the American West. And there's a lot of it. And we decided that the easiest way to do that was to just sleep in our car as we went along.

And the problem being-- well, the good thing is neither of us are taller than 5'7", so it means we can fit in a lot of different cars. The bad thing was all we had was a Subaru Crosstrek at the time, so not the most roomy vehicle. And so what we ended up doing, we just-- we bought like a $12 air mattress from Walmart, got a pump for it. And we drove all the way to the Grand Canyon stopping at numerous national parks on the way.

And it made me think to myself like, I've been on a lot of trips in camper vans, like the Volkswagen California, which isn't even available over here-- but if it was, it would be really expensive, and I mean, to me, rightfully so-- or the sprinter vans that have been converted that cost as much as a small house. And while I think those are great-- they're really comfortable to sleep in-- I feel like lately, you know, with inflation and everything, people are trying to save a good amount of money.

So yeah, the easiest thing for me-- I now own a Ford Flex, which is quite a bit bigger. But this whole setup will fit into either-- either one of my cars, so the Crosstrek or the Flex. So yeah, you got an air mattress. It was like 12 bucks from Walmart, like I said. I got a twin-sized one. And that fit perfectly in both of our vehicles. Bought myself an air pump, which was like $9. So that way I'm not getting myself lightheaded every time we're setting up camp blowing this thing up.

And then the game-changer for me, which I didn't even-- before our trip out West, didn't even realize that this was a thing is window screens. So the first time we went camping, we just had the windows up. And the air gets real humid inside at night, especially in the summer, if you have the windows all up. But if you roll the windows down, that's when all the bugs get in. And so I found these-- and I mean, they're everywhere. I just wasn't aware that they were a thing.

I found these screens that actually go over the top of your doors. And so it allows you to crack your window, and nothing can get in. And so we put those like on all of the windows. And that allows for like pretty solid airflow throughout the night. And I bought those-- again, like $12, so not a ton of money. We used blankets and pillows that we already had. So it was pretty comfortable in the back of the car there.

And then-- so we're not even close to $100 right now. So the rest of it, I used as kind of like a kitchen setup, a real cheap kitchen setup. Everything here is really budget-friendly. But it's like, if you don't know that you want to do this very often, you don't want to go out and spend thousands of dollars on camping gear and then just be like, you know what, I hate camping. So I feel like spending 100 bucks and then feeling that way is a lot more palatable.

So the kitchen setup that I've used, I've actually used this for years. They make these little like micro-weight stoves that screw right into the top of a fuel canister. And they're like $10. They've got a little igniter on the side. And you know, you can't like throw a cast iron skillet on top and cook a steak. But you can boil water really quickly with it.

So when my wife and I have gone out with just that, we've brought along those like dehydrated meals, boiled water. And then you just pour it in, and-- and there you go, you got your dinner. So that's 10 bucks. And-- and then you buy like a table for $20 and a 5-gallon water jug for another $10, and you're pretty much there.

I mean, buying a cooler, that's where it can go off the rails. If you want to buy a Yeti for $300, it's going to break your $100 budget for sure. Coleman has some not as nice versions, you know, that won't keep your stuff quite as cold for like 16 bucks, but it's a heck of a lot cheaper. Yeah. But I highly recommend, if you've never tried sleeping out of your car, especially if you have an SUV or crossover-- sleeping out of a sedan-- little tougher.

I know Zach has like slept out of his Integra like on a cross-country road trip, which I think is insane considering how tall he is. But yeah, if you have a crossover or an SUV, I'd highly recommend just giving it a go. You can bring a lot of stuff that you already have at home, and it doesn't really cost a whole lot. So yeah, have you-- have you ever tried sleep-- like sleeping in any of the press cars or sleeping in a car that you own?

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, no, great question. So by the time this podcast drops, we will be back from the UP actually. But-- and we're doing like cabins, cottages kind of thing on-- right off of Lake Huron. Long story short, previously, we have done that, where instead of like renting or just straight up camping, we have just-- we had I think it was a Chevy Tahoe. It was a Tahoe. And I'm trying to-- it was like a special edition Tahoe thing.

But yeah, worked out pretty good actually. But some of the tricks that you mention here, you know, they would have made it a little more comfortable. Like the window problem it's a real problem. Because like we weren't sure to like-- it was May when we did this. And it was just the two of us, so before kids. So it was pretty easy. And we just like pulled up.

You know, some people in the camping party had tents. Some people stayed in another cabin. We're just like, we're good. Put down the seats. Goodnight. And it worked out pretty well. I actually got a speeding ticket in the Tahoe on the way home.

I think the guy saw the car. And he was like, OK guy, sure, I'm not going to give you a break, Mr. like-- you know, metro Detroiter flying through northern Michigan in your $70,000 SUV. Here is your ticket. But yeah, it worked out pretty good. We just did sleeping bags, put the seats down, and it worked out OK.

I think the screens, especially in like summer, that could be a game-changer. Because you get that like wind through. And then it's just like you're camping in a tent, only maybe a bit more comfortable. So that could be very cool.

The gear you recommend here, I'm going to have to go over some of this too. Because we-- this table looks nice. That would be really good for all sorts of purposes. And then this-- like the-- the camp stove thing looks super clever. Like most of the places we go, like there's like fire pits. Or people will bring larger gas stoves like even if this were like a tailgate application. But you know, that's-- that's super handy, just in case you don't want to build the fire, and you need caffeine, and--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Totally. Yeah, like I-- those things are so small. My wife actually got me one for my birthday like, I don't know, in 2014 or something. And I've just gotten into the habit of keeping it in the glove box.

GREG MIGLIORE: Oh, OK.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Because it's so tiny that it doesn't really take up that much space. And there have been times on road trips-- my buddy and I drove-- when I lived in Detroit, we drove all the way out to Glacier National Park and back in a week, which I do not recommend doing. It was 4,000 miles in-- in like four days of driving. We spent a few days in the park.

But yeah, having that thing-- there was like a morning, I remember, in the middle of Montana. We were in the middle of nowhere. And we were on our way home. Both of us were really tired at that point. Because you know, you're driving these really long stretches. And then you're getting up every morning to go hiking and staying up late. And so we just pulled over on the side of the road. And I fired up that stove and made coffee right then and there.

And there was no-- you know, there's probably like a Starbucks 250 miles away or something. So that was like the only way to do it. Yeah, I love the little stoves. And then yeah, the screens are nice too because they actually provide a little bit of privacy too. Like people can't be like looking in your windows or whatnot.

I recently was-- I recently had a Defender 110. And I did a video on can you sleep in that vehicle, which you can check out on autoblog.com. And it made me really excited for-- that vehicle specifically made me really excited for the Defender 130 to come out. The Defender 110 was great for someone like my height to sleep in. Just like throw-- everything lays flat.

The way the front seats lay flat, they almost kind of form a pillow. So you don't even need to bring one of those. Just throw down like a sleeping pad and a sleeping bag, and you're like good to go. You can charge your phone from the back. It's great. But anybody taller than me, I think, would have an issue. So like the Defender 130 with the extra row, I think it might be-- fingers crossed, without having tested it out yet, it might be the most comfortable vehicle to camp in that wasn't like built for sleeping in.

GREG MIGLIORE: Interesting. I would like to try that. That sounds kind of cool. What do you-- so for the-- to go back to the stove thing, do you just buy the gas supply and then throw it out when you're done? Or do you-- like it looks kind of like-- like well, maybe we can include a link to this in the podcast or something. But it looks like a sprinkler head almost, like you would see like in a building. And then the gas supply is just below it. So is it just use it, pitch it, and get another one?

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yep. Yep, that's exactly it, yeah. Yeah, so the only downside to that is if you're like traveling somewhere overseas or if you're flying somewhere, you can't bring that kind of fuel with you. So you just have to find it wherever you're going, which I haven't had an issue with that. I've flown across the US like with the stove and then just bought the fuel at REI or whatnot. And actually, when we went to Iceland, gosh, five years ago, we brought that along as well.

And the place where we rented the camper van from, people would like just drop off all the supplies they didn't use because they can't fly with it home. So we had like a bunch of fuel that we could use with it, and we didn't even have to pay for anything. So yeah, I just bring the stove with me when I'm traveling and then buy the fuel wherever I end up.

GREG MIGLIORE: Isn't that great when that happens? I was at the driving range yesterday, and some guy just left a huge extra bucket of balls. So I hit like over 100-plus balls, which is basically like playing well over a round of golf, maybe two if you're really good. And so yeah, just free stuff. So yeah, check--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: All about it.

GREG MIGLIORE: Check out the story. It's-- obviously it's going to be up for a while. You can search for it. By the time this drops, it'll probably have filtered off the home page. But hey, check it out if you need to kind of rough it, but you want to do it a little more comfortably. This is a good way to do it. I will definitely take some of these tips.

Now you have been behind the wheel of a Z car. I have not yet. It is on my dance card. It was actually supposed to be earlier this year. A couple things got moved around. So I assume I will get into it soon. But what did you think?

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: So I picked it up from the airport and drove it home. And I almost had an issue like you did. I got home. And as I was pulling in the driveway, the low tire light went on. And I was like, oh god. And there was a huge nail in that thing. Luckily, they swapped out all four tires and got it back to me like the next week. Because I was like, man, if my only drive home was me like jet-lagged in this thing that would be-- that would be a bummer.

I loved it. I really enjoyed it. Obviously, it's been a long time coming. The 370 was old. I mean, I know Nissan likes to take their time, we should say, with certain vehicles. And this was no exception there. I think it looks great. And this was a manual, which I loved. I don't get a ton of manuals out here. I think the last manual I had was a S-209. So it's been a few years.

But it was blast to drive around. I really enjoyed the steering, which isn't something maybe that would stand out. But I took it down some canyon roads out here. And yeah, it was just like I could aim it where I wanted it to go, and it went there, you know? Performance-wise, again it was everything-- like everything that I asked the car to do, it did it for me, which was great. Obviously, like around here, canyon roads don't have the highest speed limits. So I wasn't pushing it to its max or anything.

But it was like-- it was comfortable. And it was really fun. It was a lot of fun. And-- and man, it definitely got a lot of attention too. Like people were stopping like on their walks around the block with their dogs and asking me about it.

And I was actually at a Nissan dealer event last Friday. It's like a local thing where we built bikes for charity and then watched this mountain biking movie. And they had an old Z there, like a real old Z, and the new one. And man, people were swarming that thing all night. So I think-- I think it's-- I think it's a great, great car. I think it looks so much better.

Yeah, I'm really interested to see what you think of it when you get it. Because it was a ton of fun to drive.

GREG MIGLIORE: Funny story about car camping-- I had the old Z, probably 2012, so obviously, the outgoing-- the last generation. And my apartment flooded. So I was not quite sleeping in it, but I was spending a lot of time like after work in the car. I had a lot of possessions in it. So it was-- I was just sort of like bouncing around while they sorted out my apartment at the time. So man, that was probably more than 10 years ago.

But yeah, it was-- yeah, so I would not recommend camping or living in a 3-- I guess it was 50Z or 370Z. So you just--

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah, not the way to do it.

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: I actually did a video on trying to sleep in this car.

GREG MIGLIORE: Yeah? How'd that work?

CHRISTOPHER MCGRAW: Yeah, ooh, it was-- it was actually like more comfortable than I thought it would be, like if you had to pull over at a rest stop because you've been driving for 16 hours or something and get, you know, 30 to 45 minutes. But there's no way that you could actually like get a night's sleep in that car. That being said, like you were saying, having all your possessions in it-- I'm not the heaviest traveler, but I'm not like the lightest either. So I had quite a few bags coming home from the airport. And my wife was with me too.